I have read and seen stuff about the vatican archives and it looks like an awsome.treasury of historical material.
Does the Orthodox Church have something like it?
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I have read and seen stuff about the vatican archives and it looks like an awsome.treasury of historical material.
Does the Orthodox Church have something like it?
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The Orthodox Church are heretics since the schism
It had, but when the Crusaders sacked Constantinople in 1204 during the Fourth Crusade they took its contents to the Vatican, as well as much of the city’s treasure and art.
Cartman saves, you are uneducated in this issue. if you will ask to any educated Catholic, he will say that Orthodox church is also true churh and not heretical. it was decided even on the vatican council.
pope John Paul sayed, that Orthodoxy and Catholicism are two lugs of one church and deny of Orthodoxy is deny of Catholicism.
Catholics think that both churches recognizes the same things, but differently.
BUT Orthodox don’t think so.
actually Catholics recived new doctrines.
the great schism happened because of political reasons, dogmatical reasons and because of some canonical disagreences. (that isvery deep issue)
you asked:
”do the Roman Catholics view Orthodox Christians and their doctrine as heresy?”
we don have new doctrines, Roman Catholics added new doctrines.
pope’s primacy – Orthodox views about pope is that, Roman pope was the first among EQUALS.
also Orthodox think that the main Cathedra can be changed. f.e before Rome became main Cathedra, when Apostles were alive, Cathdra of Jerusalem was the main. and on the Ecumenical council Constantinople recived equal authority of Rome, because Constantinople was new Rome.
Fillioque – that question is very deep. but if not talk about rightness of Fillioque, Catholics changed the creed, and that was forbidden on ecumenical councils.
Purgatory – new doctrine of Catholic church. this doctrine was developed by R.C church after schism.
Orthodox views:
what is a human without body, or without soul? it’s not full human, so his regret isn’t full. a human can be saved when he will cnfess, but how can he confess in ”purgatory?” he can’t, because he’s incomplete human without body and he’s regret will be incomplete too. and all men will complete on the second comeing when they will be resurected – they will be full humans, with bodie and with souls together, but the difference is that the body will conspired with soul, soul won’t be conspired with body like in this world.
Catholics argumentation about purgatory Maccabees 12:39-45 and Corinthians 3:12-15, but there isn’t talk about purgatory, and we can’t read about it in Bible, this argumentations are false, because wepray for dead people and do virtues for there names coz, there situations there can go better and Jesus Christ can forgive them, on the second comeing, on the The Last Judgment .
and in purgatory people are forgiven by punishing. but the god isn’t punisher, he punishes us to have regret, to enter the heaven with regret, and in if belive in purgatory, the god wants that we be torturd to be forgiven, (but as I sayed we can’t even confess if we won’t be full humans)
R.C teaching about ”pay for sins” – pay dept for sins. I think trade with god. I think when a man have regret and recives sacraments can be saved.
different views about the Original sin
the first Maryan Dogma:
Catholics say that Mary was born without sin. she was born with original sin – with sin of Adam, like all humans, but hadn’t personal sins. only Jesus Christ was born without Original sin, because he was NEW ADAM, and he was born without father, and Mary by father. and Jesus Christ died for sins of all humans (but only they were saved who confessed, because they wanted, and who didn’t confess they didn’t want). and that was impossible to not have adam sin Jesus Christ took this sin.
the Second Maryan dogma:
Orthodox also say that Mary was taken in heaven with soul and body, but Catholcis say that that happened because Mary was born unlike other humans and that’s why she was taken in heaven with body.
Pope’s infabillity – Catholics’ dogma, developed on Vatican council. Catholics think that Pope is infallible on ex-cathedra, when preaches on cathedra, and when considers doctrinal issues.
Orthodox views:one man can make a mistake everytime, even on Cathedra. infallible are only ecumenical councils, because on ecumenical councils were all hiearachs of the church, and they all discussed issues, their mistake was impossible, because if they made mistakes, that means whole church were in mistake and that’s impossible because:
”upon this rock I will build my church and gates of hell will not overcome it”
and grace of holy spirit is there when thousands of hierarchs discuss dogmatical questions, and one man can everytime make a mistake.
every Orthodox hierarchs, or Patriarchs can be judged by council, if they are wrong.
Also many popes views disagreed each other on ex-cathedra. (f.e Pope Liberius agreed heresy of Arianism.)
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